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 JoshPetFusionBB Developer Posts 6722 
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09-10-06 05:49 PM - Post#36395
We have upgraded our site here to version 2.0 Beta 3. Yes, you heard me, Version 2.0. LOL We've taken some feedback from various places including this topic and have decided to call our next update Version 2.0 instead of version 1.1. As many of you are aware, our first major update to FusionBB includes some dramatic new features, including the Calendar and MyPaymentPal. It's far more than a minor upgrade to say the least. And we've been around just over a year now, so calling it version 2.0 seems fitting. We are well aware that the first major upgrade to FusionBB has been a long time coming. Too long for sure - for that we are well aware, and we apologize for the long delay. Many of you have been upset by this delay. Believe me when I say that it is in our best interest to get this version out just as quickly as possible. But we will be the first to admit that we tackled much to much for our first major release. And once we got into it, we needed to complete what we've started. Once we get this version complete and released, we will be tackling smaller, more frequent updates in the future. As license holders, you definately deserve the opportunity to download version 2.0 once it's released, but some of the initial FusionBB supporters licenses have already run past 1 year. So to compensate for this, and say "thank you for your patience" we will be adding 6 months time to all licenses that have been purchased, and all licenses that will be purchased through the end of September 2006. I know that doesn't totally make up for the delay, but I hope it helps show you the level of committment we have to our customers. Now as per the status of 1.1 errr I mean 2.0. For the past several months, we have been Alpha testing this on our development site. This is where a small group of users have been using the software as we develop. This has proved very stable. I have been running the new version on a very active site of my own for aprox. 6 weeks, and it's proved quite stable. About 3 weeks ago, we released this version to our Alpha testers, to actually download and begin playing with. This flushed out some issues, mostly with configuration, upgrades and installations, but overall has been quite stable. We are currently reworking our installer/upgrade scripts to be more user friendly and make the upgrade process from version 1.0 easier. Once this is complete (very soon) we will be rolling this out to our Beta test group, which is about twice the size of our Alpha tester group. We'll kick it around here for a short period of time, and see if there's any show-stopping issues, and once it's pretty stable, we'll do a public beta release. And after it's been in beta release for a bit, we'll tweak a bit and officially release 2.0 as a public, non-beta release. We know this process is time consuming, but it's criticial in making FusionBB as stable as possible once you put it into use on your site. That stability is very very important to us. We hope you understand and appreciate our efforts. We greatly appreciate your patience and support. A taste of some of the new features in 2.0 (formerly named 1.1): * A revamped Image Upload and Preview Process * The ability to place uploaded images whereever you like in the body of your post * Article Forums * Favorite Topics * Favorite Forums * Calendar * Mass Email Utility * Forum Calendars * Revamped post preview mouseover box (user preference) * Hiding the session ID from googlebots (more search engine friendly) * The ability to determine what forums incriment post count * GD Library support for image resizing * Cron scheduler improvements * Custom forum headers/footers * Option forum keyword for better search engine urls * Post count based group advancement * A variety of minor enhancements and bug fixes * MyPaymentPal (PayPal interface) Curently only the following skins have been updated to work with 2.0. The rest should be updated by the time we are out of beta: - Professional - Crisp - Oxygen - Mercury Rising - Argon - Amicae
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Ian FusionBB Fanatic Posts 1236 
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09-10-06 05:53 PM - Post#36399
Looking good 
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Claude FusionBB Fanatic Posts 1413 
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09-10-06 06:07 PM - Post#36403
...we will be adding 6 months time to all licenses... Do you mean 6 months from the time we are able to download 2.0 public final?
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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09-10-06 06:11 PM - Post#36404
6 months to the expiration date of whatever your license is. At this point, we expect that to cover 2.0 as well as 2.1.
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 DonFusionBB Enthusiast Posts 409 |
 09-10-06 06:17 PM - Post#36406
The extension on licenses is a nice thought, I'm looking forward to the calendar as we have major events in November and January. Can't remember if Dave said this one would have post moderation or if it would be the next but that's still something we really need... the "druggie" spammers have finally found the Fusion install I administer so every day there are posts in our 3 "open" forums that have to be deleted. Here's the test for your upgrade & install procedures...if I can do it myself without driving you and Dave crazy anybody can do it 
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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09-10-06 06:22 PM - Post#36407
Post moderation is definatley at the top of our list.
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Claude FusionBB Fanatic Posts 1413
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09-10-06 06:37 PM - Post#36409
6 months to the expiration date of whatever your license is. At this point, we expect that to cover 2.0 as well as 2.1. Works for me.
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Honda Guru FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 287 
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09-10-06 08:45 PM - Post#36414
When can we expect to see MPP in action? Can you set up a subscription group for a token amount ($1) and let us see the process? Thanks
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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09-10-06 10:05 PM - Post#36420
Yeah, we've done that now in the test category. We've setup a forum for testing a forum based Calendar, a forum for testing articles and a forum for MyPaymentPal testing. You will see, but not be able to access the MyPaymentPal forum. But you can signup via paypal for a free 14 day trial. Then it's 5 cents after that. But if you cancel your subscription during the free trail, you are not charged.
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Lori FusionBB Documentation Goddess Posts 2683 
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09-10-06 10:20 PM - Post#36422
(Psssst Josh. Don't forget to change the 1.1 references to 2.0 in the Comparison box [Features page- off the Features link at the top]) :edit: ....and the FAQ and Purchase pages as well.
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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09-10-06 10:39 PM - Post#36424
Mucho gracious
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Lori FusionBB Documentation Goddess Posts 2683
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09-10-06 10:59 PM - Post#36425
No problema  I'll keep an eye out for any more references. I found (& changed) a few that I had made in the Wiki topics.
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Diaphone goober Posts 96 
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09-11-06 05:59 PM - Post#36452
Congratulations, it's looking great! 
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Medar FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 266 
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09-12-06 05:18 PM - Post#36480
Is there anywhere on the site that shows our license expiration? I tend to be bad about tracking such things...
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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09-12-06 07:44 PM - Post#36481
We don't have the "member area" online yet (we were waiting for MPP. But I can regenerate the license email for you which will show the expiration date (before the extension).
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don Quixote FusionBB Contributor Posts 182 
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09-12-06 09:20 PM - Post#36484
I hope the reworking of the install script will allow us to run the importer from .threads w/o creating the Super User account as you would with a normal install. That would at least keep me from having to merge two admin users as well as having duplicate sets of groups for users, admins, and moderators. |
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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09-12-06 09:25 PM - Post#36485
No the upgrade/install script has nothing to do with the import functionality. The import functionality is from the admin menu, so you need to have a user and be able to login to fusion to be able to import (since you can import data into an existing forum as well). What I typically do is create my first user as "fbbadmin" don't name it the same as your Threads name, since you will only need it to import. When you are done imported (and you've given your old username proper permissions etc...) then the user you create at install can be deleted.
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bouche FusionBB Addict Posts 789 
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09-14-06 11:25 AM - Post#36511
Cool news! I'll find some time in the next few days to upgrade jambands.ca. I'm dying to get users working with the articles forum. I haven't had time to do anything with the site as of late. Have you guys any thoughts on the full-on photo gallery, originally planned as a major feature for this release, but eventually put on hold?
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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09-15-06 08:32 PM - Post#36524
Yeah, we definately will expand the gallery. It wasn't slated for this release though, this was to flush out missing features and expand calendar and add MPP. But down the line, definately yes.
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Don FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 409 |
 09-17-06 04:13 PM - Post#36555
Will the finished Calendar have a "forward" arrow? A lot of the events we post are ones where people need to make travel & reservations several months in advance.
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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09-17-06 04:20 PM - Post#36556
The site calendar will. The forum calendar won't under this version. Dave's got to do quite a bit of work to cache future information for efficient display when viewing a forum with a calendar. What you see here is pretty much what 2.0 is at this point. We're making a few adjustments currently to the installer/upgrader to try to eliminate some of the issues we had when the Alpah testers upgraded. Then we can get it to beta and out to public etc....
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Don FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 409 |
09-17-06 06:24 PM - Post#36558
Ah-ha Still finding stuff-didn't see the new calendar link at the top...that will work.
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Couchtomatoe Code Monkey Posts 3049 
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09-17-06 11:39 PM - Post#36565
Oh btw the one thing I found annoying about this new version was the fact they now allow use of mysqli ovver mysql.. while more seure.. makes writing mods that arent just for fusion.. FUN
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kanetrain FusionBB Contributor Posts 170 |
10-15-06 05:52 AM - Post#36988
Are we getting close on this? I'm excited for this. |
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kanetrain FusionBB Contributor Posts 170 |
10-15-06 06:03 AM - Post#36989
Just curious... why use mysqli? Is there a benefit to using it - or supporting it? |
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Honda Guru FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 287
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10-15-06 06:54 AM - Post#36990
Are we getting close on this? Based on a current post in the shout box from Dave, it should be about a week away from a Public Beta Release. Then a full release after hopefully a month of public beta testing (dependent on the number of bugs found).
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Don FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 409 |
10-17-06 11:17 AM - Post#37029
Hey Dave Tell Josh (I remember his vacation caused the same delays thing with 1.0 last time) our 6 mo. extension should be from the day you release 1.1 to be fair. It's already been almost 3 months since the 6 month extension & still...  For one our calendar events begin Nov. 29th and users would have to make reservations now to be getting the good deals on airlines & such so what started to be a few months, then became until spring, then "soon" then August...is now maybe October... Not whining but we know there will be some bugs & such when it finally does get out and time getting used to it, so just IMHO the 6 months should be from the 1.1 "roll out"....but I'm just grumpy from my daily job of deleting all the Viagra and porno posts from our open forums that can't be moderated yet 
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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10-17-06 11:16 PM - Post#37031
Yeah, I think we'll do somethign like that. Once it's out, I'll post the details but indeed we've retooled a bit for a better install/upgrade utility to try to have a strong leg moving forward with upgrades and support issues. At this point we're 2 months past the original release anniversary, so we'll probably end up with a 9 month extension to those who purchased upon 1.0 release. I'd like to see everyone have at least 6 months of member area access after 2.0 is out.
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Don FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 409 |
11-13-06 06:11 AM - Post#37252
Almost a month and no posts or news...it's sad to keep coming here and see nothing & the Dev forum and they're are newest post threads from last June... Not doing well guys, especially when I noticed somebody who is a lot more of a Fusion newbie than me is running 2.0  ...that was a shocker...I guess maybe 2008 will bring something maybe at least Josh or Dave will post a little blip on "well we know it's been another month but my girlfriend's, brother's dog got sick and the code for the confused smiley isn't quite ready...but we plan on beta testing after the holidays... or something...anything 
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Don FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 409 |
11-13-06 06:14 AM - Post#37255
Almost a month and no posts or news...it's sad to keep coming here and see nothing & the Dev forum and they're are newest post threads from last June... Not doing well guys, especially when I noticed somebody who is a lot more of a Fusion newbie than me is running 2.0 ...that was a shocker...I guess maybe 2008 will bring something maybe at least Josh or Dave will post a little blip on "well we know it's been another month but my girlfriend's, brother's dog got sick and the code for the confused smiley isn't quite ready...but we plan on beta testing after the holidays... or something...anything I know our first major event of the convention season is in 2 weeks in Vegas, no way the calendar will be of any use in time for that one...and who will delete all those un-moderated posts while I'm there? 
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Don FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 409 |
11-13-06 06:15 AM - Post#37256
Almost a month and no posts or news...it's sad to keep coming here and see nothing & the Dev forum and they're are newest post threads from last June... Not doing well guys, especially when I noticed somebody who is a lot more of a Fusion newbie than me is running 2.0 ...that was a shocker...I guess maybe 2008 will bring something maybe at least Josh or Dave will post a little blip on "well we know it's been another month but my girlfriend's, brother's dog got sick and the code for the confused smiley isn't quite ready...but we plan on beta testing after the holidays... or something...anything I know our first major event of the convention season is in 2 weeks in Vegas, no way the calendar will be of any use in time for that one...and who will delete all those un-moderated posts while I'm there? & How come there is no "edit" button, you have to "back" up to the post to do an edit
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Gregori FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 451 |
 11-13-06 10:00 AM - Post#37259
Am I the only one seriously considering going back to "that other php board"? Just a glance at all the recent posts at ubbdev.com gave me a stomach ache. Is the FBB development community dying? Going Fusion was a real pain. But sad to say, I´m not any longer sure it was worth the effort. The way I see it FBB 1.0 may be a nice little product, but it has nothing really new to offer (sure, it´s stable and works fine from a technical point of view ... but then what?) and is more of a tech demo than a serious competition-butt-kicking product. The plans for FBB 2.0 and later versions are great. Like MPP; not have the need for third party products to run critical functions is excellent. But without a live release all of this is just empty sales talk. If 2.0 is not out really soon ...  I just can´t wait another 6 month for 2.0 with MPP. I need it this year! I´d rather pay that small fortune to get transferred back to Threads and then pay another license fee for a working third party payment solution this year.The idea of MPP integration indicates that the Fusion team believes they have the opportunity to sell this product to people who has got a plan on how to make some serious money on their boards. And that is really good thinking. But this permanent (?) delay clearly shows that the Fusion team are not taking this matter seriously. Where will you find that board owner with a plan to make some money, and who is ready to delay the estimated income increase and planed board development indefinitely just because the Fusion team can´t say what year they will deliver? That person does not exist, trust me on this. If the Fusion team can´t deliver others can. This gives me the feeling FBB is and will stay as a hobby/consumer product and not that cutting edge proffesional system the Fusion team have been bragging about. It´s like pushing a Photoshop killer, when all you' ve got in store is Microsoft Paint! If I have learned anything from this, it is to only look at what is in store and for sale right now. I know that the decision to move from UBBT to FBB was my own (and I hade loads of complaints on UBBT and Infopop), and I´m not blaming anyone else for making it. I should have known better then listening to sales talk. What I´m saying is that I´m getting good and ready to cut my losses and leave. FBB might be that butt-kicking product some day. But that day is yet to come. I´d rather eat the half baked potato any day of the week, rather than starve in wait for the foie gras. |
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KhunSanuk FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 339 
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11-13-06 10:10 AM - Post#37261
Hi, Not much to add. Don't think we'll be changing over, but it is getting really tiring hearing nothing but soon. It's been almost a year of 'soon'. Now I am sure someone will come back with the "well wouldn't you rather have a program that is bug free and wait a little longer?" to which I am now ready to say, "No, I'd rather have version 2 installed; I'll worry about the minor glitches later". If at this point (after 1 year of 'soon') the program is still in such a state that it contains more than just some glitches, something is seriously wrong. Will v2.0 be great? Yeah, I think it will. I just wished I'd be able to find out myself and install it. Sanuk!
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Claude FusionBB Fanatic Posts 1413
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11-13-06 10:47 AM - Post#37262
Am I the only one seriously considering going back to "that other php board"? Just a glance at all the recent posts at ubbdev.com gave me a stomach ache. Is the FBB development community dying? Going Fusion was a real pain. But sad to say, I´m not any longer sure it was worth the effort. Boy, I'm hanging in there and trying not to be discouraged, but I'm starting to feel the same way. After waiting for a year, can anyone blame me? I was so taken with Fusion that I hurriedly switched over. The import from Threads went poorly and I lost a great many posts in the process. I even switched my hosting to Vertex, thinking it would be best to have my forum hosted by the same people that make Fusion. I went for the whole package. Now, I'm about as discouraged as I could be. I'm just plain tired of being told, "we're close", "real soon", and all those other pacifying phrases that even some of the customers echo. After a while, all the excuses in the world don't matter to the customer - they want results. There were a lot of great products that failed, simply because they couldn't deliver. If I do switch back to Threads, I guarantee you that I would never come back to Fusion if it were the best product out there and it were free. Fusion has made me look ridiculous in the eyes of my forum users. The question for me know is, if and when to pull the plug.
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Coynster FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 402 
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11-13-06 11:16 AM - Post#37263
Hey, at least you guys got to use your product... I bought the software during the Pre-sale, with a guarantee that I'd have a phpBB converter, and since the converter never came about I've never been able to launch FusionBB. I just got tired of begging for the converter. I'm just a slow, niche site, but it all comes down to, you buy something for a purpose, and I was never able to use it for my purpose.
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Don FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 409 |
11-13-06 01:15 PM - Post#37264
I'm not looking back. Fusion 1.0 is better than UBBT and unlike some of you all my posts made the trip (albeit with all the funny little ? mark symbols where every one of the apostrophe's or semicolons etc. used to be) But I get the feeling most folks are like me in the frustration that we go for long periods of time here with "no news" (I check the beta tester's section every week or so hoping for a release) then there is an occasional post that "soon, we almost have it" and then another long period of no news or comments. I can imagine the frustration of some people, what the niche community I bought Fusion for needs is mainly post moderation and a working calendar (but the articles and MPP things may be useful too, been holding up one article for a month hoping...) so for those waiting for an importer or needing MPP to make the money or whatever I'm sure it's worse. My main shock was when I saw one of the few select people running 2.0 beta was someone who got started with Fusion well after I did (both of us ran the beta's pre-release on Fusion 1.0), seemed strange. I too wonder what bugs are now preventing a release. I also wonder what the "corporate" philosophy is against releasing 2.0 in beta with the features that do work and a caveat that "X" still has bugs or the "ABC importer is not yet functional". Not jumping to conclusions but I can't help but wonder if the "bugs" are not bigger than they have been portrayed? If there were only a few bugs with an importer script and a thing or two here or there surely those of us who dealt with all the pre-1.0 bugs could live around those. I wonder because the last "news" was that it would be ready to go to beta testers as soon as everybody got back from vacation (on 10/14) and had it "packaged" and a couple of little bugs worked out of the upgrade script. But that was then, and I might have a different opinion (still frustrated but different opinion) if you said: "well there will be no beta, we just decided to get it 100% perfect & then roll out the finished 2.0" Oct 14th Dave posted a "shout" that beta would be released to testers as soon as Josh got back from another vacation (just envy; but isn't that 3 in the last year?...I need that type job!... or maybe use the vacation from the other job to work on Fusion )Tomorrow makes a month since that "shout" and the beta forum here hasn't had a post since October 1st. so no news there. Last post on the "Dev." board was Oct 23rd and that was a comment on an older thread. The "Devs" quit making new goodies long ago... Kind-of depressing/frustrating but mainly bad customer relations. No news is not good news and honestly is the best policy. So if there is a reason why a month after Dave said a week there is still no Beta let us know, or if there are big bugs somewhere; most of us are adults, we can take the bad news. But the days on end of no posts is not good communications. Personally; being disabled and just doing the admin on the Fusion board for my biggest hosting customer... They are a not-for-profit, right now they have as much money in the coffers as they do any time of year, with my own degenerating physical disabilities and lack of PHP skills they will probably need to pay somebody at FBB to have the upgrade installed and their mods put back (mainly just a menu button) if the upgrade is more than one click; and they may not have the money by the time it comes around (they are entering their lean months) They bought Fusion on my recommendation, and they are generally happy but I promised them a calendar last summer because it was promised here; now their "event season" is half over, so there have been some folks disgruntled with me ...and I have no answers other than "a month ago they said in a week". No raising heck here Josh & Dave; but I think it only fair we be kept up to date with what is honestly going on. I understand you guys have "day" jobs and a "life" but when you started Fusion you started a "side-business" and with a side-business sometimes people just don't get "vacations" in the early years. Sometimes they have to spend the vacation from one job working on their own "business" to keep their own customers happy. Sure it's no fun, but many people have done it. Anyhow, my "wonder" is why no beta...warts & all, if they really are such small warts?
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Chris Beveridge FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 256 
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11-13-06 01:39 PM - Post#37265
I haven't moved to fusion yet, but bought into the license with 1.0 with the premise that 1.1 would be right out and have the fixes I needed to really go with it. But I'm now becoming more interested in reading up on the new UBBT and seeing what all is going on there and possibly going that route. It's both sad and painful to read here lately considering the energy that once was.
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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11-13-06 07:43 PM - Post#37272
I want it released just as much, if not more than you all do. At this point, bugs aren't a big issue, there hasn't been anything show stopping, but the install /upgrade process was being reworked to make this process easier going forward. This has taken longer than expected, but will make support and issues easier for all involved going forward.
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Gregori FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 451 |
11-14-06 04:23 AM - Post#37284
I´d rather have a bit more complicated upgrade procedure and 2.0 now, then a one click super solution next year. |
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Gregori FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 451 |
11-14-06 04:26 AM - Post#37285
The way things are going right now there won´t be anyone "involved" left who need a super smooth upgrade. The Fusion community is dying, Josh. |
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Gregori FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 451 |
11-14-06 04:34 AM - Post#37286
And, as I understand, regarding this complicated install/upgrade process, there won´t even be an automated upgrade of the language files (if my memory is not playing tricks with me Threads has had this for a long time.). Us running non english boards will have to copy & paste the new strings, right?! So exactly what are we waiting for? And pleeeeeeease, let us have edit rights in this forum. |
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Medar FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 266
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11-14-06 03:42 PM - Post#37299
But I get the feeling most folks are like me... I think you are probably right. I am still here for two reasons. 1. If I swapped now, I feel I would have completely wasted my initial purchase, especially since we cannot resell our license. 2. No other forums out there import FusionBB...makes it tough to jump ship.
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Gregori FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 451 |
11-14-06 04:22 PM - Post#37301
2. No other forums out there import FusionBB...makes it tough to jump ship. Just more sales talk, but Groupee has the ambition to deliver a Fusion importer for Threads after the release of 7.1. UBBCentral But nothing is out for sale yet. If they had that importer ready I would move tomorrow and buy aMember instead of MPP. |
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Medar FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 266
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11-14-06 04:41 PM - Post#37302
I am looking a bit further North than UBB.Threads if I import all my old data elsewhere. There is only one other 'paid' major forum I have never purchased a license for, and it is probably about vTime.
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Posts 6722
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11-14-06 09:10 PM - Post#37308
Part of what is being reworked will prevent existing langauge strings and sets from having to be redone. New strings will be added, so you'll have to re-translate those, but modified strings, and existing strings won't be touched during the upgrade process. So even if your forum isn't english, or if you've modified your strings extensively, you shouldn't have to re-do all of that. Likewise, on some servers or large sites, the upgrade process timing out in the middle can be catastrophic, so we needed to rework things to allow for the process to be restarted where it left off should the script time out. This is the type of behavior that varied in alpha testing, since people have different sized sites and different servers. I'd rather have a smooth upgrade process than half the people hosing up their forums if the script times out, missing indexes or having duplicate permissions which were the common issues encountered in Alpha (due to the upgrade scripts not being run correctly, run more than once, or timing out or restarting on their own due to server settings).
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Gregori FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 451 |
11-15-06 10:13 AM - Post#37313
I am looking a bit further North than UBB.Threads if I import all my old data elsewhere. There is only one other 'paid' major forum I have never purchased a license for, and it is probably about vTime. What product is that? |
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Monkeyra Chief Internet Man of Europe Posts 2026 
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11-15-06 02:02 PM - Post#37317
Vbulletin is my guess!
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Chris Beveridge FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 256
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11-15-06 03:17 PM - Post#37318
If I go to something completely new, it'd be Fusion. That said, I'm now in the mindset of if I don't see any real movement by thanksgiving weekend, I'm going to just upgrade to UBBT7.01 and remove Fusion from my bookmarks and write off the money I spent on it that I've never been able to use. I'm redesigning my site around whatever new forum I go to. I've been wanting to do this for months but have held off so I can integrate it properly. Fusion was my angle, but there's only so long I can wait.
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Dave FusionBB Zealot Posts 8909 
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11-15-06 03:37 PM - Post#37320
Chris I hate to see you go but I do understand. I've been working on the last upgrade script yesterday/last night/today and should be finished tonight. I fixed a couple of bugs in there as well.
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Chris Beveridge FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 256
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11-15-06 03:39 PM - Post#37321
Just to make sure I'm on the same page; the scripts that are being worked on are upgrade, i.e. from previous version(s) to this one, right? Or is the importer still being worked on as well? If it's just the upgrade, what are the chances of putting out a beta for those installing fresh?
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Dave FusionBB Zealot Posts 8909
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11-15-06 05:12 PM - Post#37326
Installing fresh goes extremely smooth. I have added a missing permission and a couple of other database changes that I need to append but they are nothing major. The new installer is much more organized now so changes can be made easily. These last few days I've been living in front of my computer with the exception of picking my sons up from school and getting about 5 hours of sleep. (eating and coding at the same time is slow but still forward movement) lol There is one bug still outstanding that I'd like to get cured before friday and it's related to private topic attachments getting lost and/or not showing up. Other than this bug I'm not aware of anything else that should be taken care of before release.
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Dave FusionBB Zealot Posts 8909
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11-15-06 05:13 PM - Post#37327
Oh.. importer, as far as I know that's finished. I think there was/is an issue or two left with the phpbb one but I am not 100% sure on that. Josh may have fixed that.
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YakkoW FusionBB Convert Posts 81 |
11-19-06 10:25 AM - Post#37474
This is all good news, Dave... Honestly, I'm still very excited about Fusion and see it as the best solution for my work. I have no desire or intention to jump ship, because, as a programmer, I've been so impressed by the care you guys have taken to make the code solid, easy to follow, and easy to modify for us development types. I can't speak for UBBT7, but IMHO Fusion's code is lightyears beyond UBBC and UBBT6 in its simplicity and developer-friendliness, even in places where the specific outcome may be the same. And as a programmer, I understand how easy it is for one unexpected delay after another to keep pushing back a project's completion, long after you thought it was "almost done." It happens. I do think, though, that it might help everyone feel a lot better if you guys could make a commitment to log on here once a day and just post a simple update. If people know what sorts of issues are outstanding, or what sort of progress is being made, it's much easier for them to be patient. Would that be a possibility? |
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Dave FusionBB Zealot Posts 8909
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11-19-06 11:35 AM - Post#37475
Thanks YakkoW Yes I know I suck at updating that change log. lol What I'm going to do to help that is set the change log up so that it can be updated by Chris Peterson (aka Zackary) who has recently been given Admin access here to help us get organized.
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Chris Beveridge FusionBB Enthusiast Posts 256
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11-19-06 12:10 PM - Post#37477
Seeing progress of any kind, just knowing that work is being done, via a changelog would go a long way to soothing most people.
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greg FusionBB Fanatic Posts 4956 
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11-19-06 12:14 PM - Post#37478
Spot on! If you all will recall, not getting ANY information out of Groupee was one of the biggest reasons many people jumped ship over there. That and some very poor moderation decisions. A daily presence to answer questions and give short updates from ANY of the people developing Fusion should be able to defuse almost all the issues/complaints that have surfaced over the last few months.
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Dave FusionBB Zealot Posts 8909
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11-19-06 12:41 PM - Post#37479
Since Zack's on the alpha team he'll be in a position to know what's new. After 2.0beta is out to you guys I may make a little script to allow the alpha group to edit the changelog from here. This way more people can adjust it as needed if things are overlooked or not explained fully. Heck even Josh has ran into features he didn't know were in there. LOL As I have said in the past I suck at documentation. Josh will quote me on saying that I at least give the files a name.
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Chris Peterson FusionBB Fanatic Posts 3758 
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11-19-06 01:43 PM - Post#37480
Spot on! If you all will recall, not getting ANY information out of Groupee was one of the biggest reasons many people jumped ship over there. That and some very poor moderation decisions. A daily presence to answer questions and give short updates from ANY of the people developing Fusion should be able to defuse almost all the issues/complaints that have surfaced over the last few months. Yeah I'm hoping to help keep folks updated to new features and where they are at. And I promise to never moderate like those other guys did on their site. That was just plain disgusting. If I don't like what someone has to say I typically go somewhere else for awhile to think it over, then come back and try to understand what they are saying and respond appropriately, not out of spite or anger. |
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Dave FusionBB Zealot Posts 8909
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11-19-06 02:01 PM - Post#37487
Definitely. I wouldn't want any one's posts edited for criticisms. When we're doing good I know we're doing good and when we're doing bad I know when we're doing bad. Not that I ever need that pointed out to me I don't get offended when it is. lol
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greg FusionBB Fanatic Posts 4956
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11-19-06 03:44 PM - Post#37497
It's just like anything else, when there is nothing posted, even "bad" posts, people really start wondering and get worked up. I really can't think of any other group of developers that have gone as far out of their way over the past year to keep everyone happy and be FAIR to those who purchased Fusion, as these guys have. They had a rough spot, and it looks as if that has been smoothed out and things are on track again! Over the past month I've really taken a look at Fusion compared to Vbulletin and UBB7 and even though Fusion is still in it's very early stages, I still couldn't see anythng that would cause me to move to either of those other solutions. Vbulletin, for instance, you have to pay for a gallery or portal, we have it for free! Ubb7 has a portal, but no gallery builtin! Yes, each of those has a couple of other "goodies", but those are in the planning stages for Fusion, so it's only a matter of time.
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Dave FusionBB Zealot Posts 8909
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11-19-06 04:04 PM - Post#37502
I hear tell that .threads will have a built in gallery down the road. I remember someone saying we looked like .threads... LoL now I'll be able to say they look like us.
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greg FusionBB Fanatic Posts 4956
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11-19-06 04:05 PM - Post#37504
You betcha!
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Monkeyra Chief Internet Man of Europe Posts 2026
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11-19-06 04:07 PM - Post#37505
I remember someone saying we looked like .threads... Mwahaha, I also said that when I first stumbled across FBB... It upset someone, I can't remember who though 
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Dave FusionBB Zealot Posts 8909
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11-19-06 04:10 PM - Post#37507
LoL wasn't me but it wasn't you I was thinking of. This was something said by one of the people employed by Infopop. At the time they didn't have subforums and a number of the features we did. But hey got to give them some credit they're catching up and doing better than they were.
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greg FusionBB Fanatic Posts 4956
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11-19-06 04:24 PM - Post#37508
It's just my opinion, but it seems like all of a sudden Rick again gained control over the company and cleaned house. I've not seen many other names posting that used to be in the thick of it and Rick's presence has been a lot more than before. Not sure if that's it, but something really drastic happened over there and it was for the better of that company.
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Dave FusionBB Zealot Posts 8909
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11-19-06 04:26 PM - Post#37510
That was my take on things too.
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