Jason Stix Buckley FusionBB Fanatic Total Posts: 1884
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02-01-09 01:44 PM - Post#80026
In response to Jason Stix Buckley
Ok, I found my answer. I miss things sometimes since I was a beta tester from the start, not seeing things added since install. I was looking in the Wiki, but it is in the documentation:
Moderators - This group of Members are Moderators of particular Forums that you have set for them to moderate and are treated as Users everywhere else (in earlier versions this was not so, they were moderators EVERYWHERE)
Sorry for the confusion.  I guess I was still thinking about the way it was initially, not the way it is now.
Still though, my "read only" group is essentially fubar now since I am forced to have a member in the user group. I can't think of any other way to create a "read only" group, unless I make the stock "user" group and make that read only and manually move people into a posting privs group, but that would be a pain.
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Chris Peterson FusionBB Fanatic Total Posts: 3758
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02-01-09 03:18 PM - Post#80028
In response to KhunSanuk
Hi,
"Once you've set up group advancement, the user is updated the next time they post, no need to move them to another group."
Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the case.
What I have done is the following:
- created a new 'Full Users' group
- set up a group advancement rule that adds any users to 'Full Users' once they have 10 posts
- removed PT privilege for 'Users'
Now about 6 hrs later only 3 people are in the 'Full Users' group, all of them have exactly 10 posts.
So, it looks like I will need an SQL statement that adds all users with more than 10 posts to the new 'Full Users' group.
Sanuk!
Just did some testing and it looks like you are right, it's not adding if they are already over.
I am pretty sure that it SHOULD check and add them if they are over. I'm hoping Couch can chime in with an opinion on this.
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greg FusionBB Fanatic Total Posts: 4956
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02-01-09 03:39 PM - Post#80030
In response to Jason Stix Buckley
Well, according to my moderators, the answer is no, they only have moderator permissions in those forums you have assigned to them.
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Couchtomatoe Code Monkey Total Posts: 3049
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02-01-09 03:49 PM - Post#80032
In response to Chris Peterson
Hi,
"Once you've set up group advancement, the user is updated the next time they post, no need to move them to another group."
Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the case.
What I have done is the following:
- created a new 'Full Users' group
- set up a group advancement rule that adds any users to 'Full Users' once they have 10 posts
- removed PT privilege for 'Users'
Now about 6 hrs later only 3 people are in the 'Full Users' group, all of them have exactly 10 posts.
So, it looks like I will need an SQL statement that adds all users with more than 10 posts to the new 'Full Users' group.
Sanuk!
Just did some testing and it looks like you are right, it's not adding if they are already over.
I am pretty sure that it SHOULD check and add them if they are over. I'm hoping Couch can chime in with an opinion on this.
Does it on the user level not the admin level thus when the user logs in and a new session is created it checks.. I guess a script could be added to ReSync Data for checking advancement but it has not been as of yet..
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Claude FusionBB Fanatic Total Posts: 1414
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02-01-09 04:55 PM - Post#80034
In response to greg
Well, according to my moderators, the answer is no, they only have moderator permissions in those forums you have assigned to them.
I thought Moderators could only moderate forums assigned to them, but Super Moderators could moderate all forums?
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greg FusionBB Fanatic Total Posts: 4956
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02-01-09 06:19 PM - Post#80037
In response to Claude
Claude, it all depends on how you set the forums up and what permissions you give the moderators. I can set any moderator up to do pretty much everything an admin can do. A Super Moderator is just one you've given extra permissions to.
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KhunSanuk FusionBB Enthusiast Total Posts: 339
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02-01-09 07:18 PM - Post#80040
In response to Couchtomatoe
Hi,
"Does it on the user level not the admin level thus when the user logs in and a new session is created it checks.."
Hate to disagree, but no, it doesn't.
Still only 3 people in the 'Full Users' group. So, unless nobody has explicitly logged in it didn't work.
Sanuk!
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Couchtomatoe Code Monkey Total Posts: 3049
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02-01-09 07:31 PM - Post#80041
In response to KhunSanuk
Hi,
"Does it on the user level not the admin level thus when the user logs in and a new session is created it checks.."
Hate to disagree, but no, it doesn't.
Still only 3 people in the 'Full Users' group. So, unless nobody has explicitly logged in it didn't work.
Sanuk!
we are talking about advancement in version 3.0 right? cause in 3.0 there is a $session->setAdvancement() function in the session class..
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KhunSanuk FusionBB Enthusiast Total Posts: 339
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Chris Peterson FusionBB Fanatic Total Posts: 3758
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02-01-09 11:02 PM - Post#80043
In response to KhunSanuk
Hi,
No, still on 2.2
Sanuk!
I wasn't aware you were still on 2.2. Might have to bear with the issue until 3.0.
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KhunSanuk FusionBB Enthusiast Total Posts: 339
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02-01-09 11:23 PM - Post#80045
In response to Chris Peterson
Hi,
Ah. Probably best to turn PTs back on then for now.
Sanuk!
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JoshPet FusionBB Developer Total Posts: 6722
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02-01-09 11:32 PM - Post#80047
In response to KhunSanuk
Yeah, I think 2.2 it only advanced when it crossed over the actual post count needed. That's something that was improved upon in 3.0.

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KhunSanuk FusionBB Enthusiast Total Posts: 339
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Claude FusionBB Fanatic Total Posts: 1414
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02-02-09 03:20 PM - Post#80058
In response to JoshPet
People have to be in one of the first 4 user groups. Admins, Super Mods, Moderators and Users
You say, "have to be in one of the first 4 user groups". Just to make sure I'm clear on this, people cannot be in a group called "Premium" without also being in "Users"?
If the groups are only used to assign permissions, why can't they be in Premium only?
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Couchtomatoe Code Monkey Total Posts: 3049
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02-02-09 06:15 PM - Post#80059
In response to Claude
because there is some backend coding that requires it. It is the way it will need to be from 3.0 onward.
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Claude FusionBB Fanatic Total Posts: 1414
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02-02-09 06:44 PM - Post#80060
In response to Couchtomatoe
because there is some backend coding that requires it. It is the way it will need to be from 3.0 onward.
That's too bad because it prevents us from using programs that can be integrated with Fusion. I have both a photo and a classified program that use the Fusion database. Those programs look to see which group the person is in, to give them permissions. I don't think it will work if they have to be in "Premium" and "Users" both.
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Couchtomatoe Code Monkey Total Posts: 3049
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02-02-09 07:47 PM - Post#80061
In response to Claude
If your talking about Photopost and ReviewPost it does work with that.
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Couchtomatoe Code Monkey Total Posts: 3049
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02-02-09 07:48 PM - Post#80062
In response to Couchtomatoe
and in case anyone is wondering this is no different than most programs which create -1 user groups in the user groups table for each user..
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Couchtomatoe Code Monkey Total Posts: 3049
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02-02-09 07:54 PM - Post#80063
In response to Couchtomatoe
for instance phpBB uses the following
they create a user group for each user.. so if there is a user id #23 then there is a pseudo group #23 and then you can add them to other groups..
in vbulletin they do something similar.. they have 3 fields for group ids usergroupid, membergroupids, and displaygroupid
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Claude FusionBB Fanatic Total Posts: 1414
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02-02-09 09:39 PM - Post#80069
In response to Couchtomatoe
If your talking about Photopost and ReviewPost it does work with that.
They used to, but I'm not sure they will if the users have to be in two groups. We had to put our members back into a single group and change our membership classifications to get it to work with PhotoPost Classifieds. We used to not allow posting a classified ad until you made several posts in the forum, but now it won't work. Our members have to be in a single group (they cant be in Users and another)
I know it won't work with WSN Gallery.
This is a major concern for us.
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